Three Keys for Great Sex ~ Sheba Queen of the Night

• The Three Keys to Great Sex and Fulfilling Relationships
  
  This week’s incredible guest, Sheba, Queen of the Night, began her career as a traditional stage actress, but a fated performance of the Vagina Monologues changed everything. That show became her life for the next 11 years, and opened her up to a world of sex, dance, creativity, pleasure, and kinks in the process.

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  Now an Erotic Artist and Sex & Intimacy coach, Sheba spends her days teaching others how to fill their lives with good sex and fulfilling relationships. In this episode, she shares the pillars of her philosophy on fulfilling sex, gives us some fascinating ways to apply them, and takes us through how to let your personality shine through your sensuality. 

  Join Sheba and me as we discuss: 

  • Her journey from actress to performance artist… to entertainer to model to erotic artist to sex & intimacy coach (Sheba really does it all!)

  • Finding joy in - and reconnecting with - your body

  • A burlesque exercise that can benefit anyone’s sex life

  • How to explore your own sensuality

  • The multi-dimensional benefits of moaning

  • Where yoga and sensuality meet

  • How to be more present - and why you should

  About Sheba:

  Sheba is a Sex & Intimacy Coach and Erotic Artist located in St. Petersburg, FL. As a practitioner of Body Joy Intimacy School, she works with clients virtually and in-person for one-on-one coaching sessions around relationships, sexuality, exploration, and body positivity. She leads kink-friendly/queer-friendly workshops encouraging intimacy building and creating a playful, explorative, exciting dynamic in your sex life. 
  

Connect with Sheba

Website: https://www.shebaqueenofthenight.com/sex-coach

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sexposisheba/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/shebaQOTNentertainment/

Connect with Deborah:

Send your sex and relationship questions to DeborahTantraKat@Gmail.com

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Email: deborahtantrakat@gmail.com

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Twitter: https://twitter.com/TantraKat 

In our commitment accessibility, help make this podcast more accessible to those who are hearing impaired or those who like to read rather than listen to podcasts. The transcription is far from perfect, and in some cases quite amusing. As we grow edited transcripts are on the list in the meantime please enjoy. Otter.Ai

Oh righty. And welcome everybody to the better sex podcast, unfiltered conversations about sex and relationship to support you in being a better lover and having better sex. Today I am super excited to have Shiva as my guest. She is Shiva Queen of the Night. She is a sex and intimacy coach, an erotic artist located in St. Petersburg, Florida. As a practitioner of body Joy intimacy school, she works with clients virtually and in person, for one on one coaching sessions about relationship, sexuality, exploration and body positivity. She leads kink friendly, queer friendly workshops, encouraging intimacy, building and creating a playful, explorative and exciting dynamic in your sex life. She believes the key to good sex and life and fulfilling relationships is relying on the three C's communication, creativity and connection. I am so so happy to have you here with me today. And thank you for being here.

Thank you so much for having me, Deborah

Um, I, I just want to add that what I know of her is that she is super generous, and incredibly positive around just allowing for allowing for let's figure it out.

Yeah, yes.

So I'm curious, like, you know, I've read the official bio, and I'm curious, tell me your story. How did you get here?

Hmm, I, I have did I get your eye. You know, I always was a very sex positive person. I came from a sex positive home. And I always dreamed of doing work like this. I just didn't know what it was called. And I actually was a theater and creative in college. And I kind of fell into a play called The Vagina Monologues. And it was kind of like the gateway to being in a group dynamic with other women. I'm talking about experiences with sexuality. And it really opened me up in a way that was inviting and holding space around trauma and experiences. And I just I loved every bit of it. And I I was actually involved in that production for 11 years. And it was a big part of my life. And then I decided to transition into becoming a performance artist. And I started to perform artistically through burlesque entertainment. And that was, like an extension of the feminist art form that I was doing with the VA movement, but it was a physical art form. And so it got me into my body, and it really kind of blew open my own sexuality. And I, there was a crossover of exploration in the kink community and I was assisting Tom Trika, and just so many things all at once just kind of crossed over. And for me, it was very natural to come into this work and become a practitioner. And I have been doing workshops around sensual movement, teaching people, the art of the teas, with my art form and burlesque as well as finding ways to get into the body. And now I'm extending that and expanding my practice and working with clients one on one leading workshops. I did a workshop with good vibrations on bodywork. worship and getting the kinks out kind of an intro to exploring your kinky creative side and, and now I'm working on some new workshops

love that, um, and you know Hello there. Um, we, we were talking a bit about creativity and how creativity and sexuality are, are joined. And but before we go there, I'd love to hear a little bit about what what it means to be a practitioner of body joy.

Hmm. So body Joy intimacy is a school of intimacy based in Austin, Texas and Northern California under Melissa Davison. And we do workshops and classes online and in person as well as hold coaching sessions and retreats. And so I am a practitioner, and I work with clients through that as well as locally here in St. Petersburg.

So I'm imagining just from the title, it's about learning how to have joy in your body.

Oh, yes, it's about being in the body and finding deeper ways to connect and explore.

And is that exploration like mostly with oneself is it with one's partner, it's

a little bit of everything if a lot of people come in the door, and sometimes they want to find a way to find deep presence and connect more and access more pleasure in their own body. And so we have some workshops, like there's a workshop called practice, which is mindful masturbation, that allows people to really drop into reconnecting with their own body in new ways. And then we also do couples, workshops, as well as one on one coaching with couples. And so it really just depends on what people bring in. A lot of people haven't really heard of a sex coach, or a sex and intimacy coach. And so it really is, I've had just a wide spectrum of different kinds of issues or concerns or areas of curiosity that people want to explore. And so every client really is unique and different. And I've had people want to find ways to reconnect after having a baby, I've had people who just want to find, you know, new things to try in the bedroom with their partner, I've had people who really just want to learn how to love themselves and to honor their own body and find ways to, you know, give themselves pleasure more. So it really depends on the client, but we definitely cover all areas of intimacy, coupling, and just interpersonal connection.

Wow, that sounds like a really wide spectrum of, of places to play and explore. Um, I want to come back to tell me about being a black of burlesque performer. What's that like for you? And how did you get there?

Well, a friend of mine who I went to college with, she was the person who introduced me to the play The Vagina Monologues, and she became a burlesque performer. And when I visited her in New York, I was exposed to the art form, and you know, so many words. And it was just very moving to me to see performers, men, women, owning their bodies, and really just finding this way to take their space and to really just explode their sexuality on stage. And it was just instantaneous. I was drawn to it and I wanted to be a part of it. And being a creative person, I enjoy the storytelling aspect of the art form as well as the costumes and, you know, putting together my own choreography and finding the music and the history of the art form. You know, it's, it's a classic striptease, it's the art of the tease. And so it's It's really about sensuality. And it's about being in your body. And one of the first classes I took, like, we had to learn how to touch our body in the slowest way and really just exude sensuality, like you're touching your hand. It's not just that you're touching your hand, but you're imagining that it's, you know, made of velvet, and you're just like adoring your hand and, and really just like taking your time and slowly moving down the body. And so it really was a great introduction, just to, you know, slow sensuality and movement therapy. And that's something that I like to bring into my sessions with my clients so that they can learn how to touch themselves in new ways. And I've been doing it for about 12 years, and I absolutely love it. It's definitely a big part of my life. And it's been able to give me a lot of creative ways to work with clients also.

Hmm. So you mentioned something about tell the story. And that really kind of caught my imagination. I'm curious what you mean by that.

So a big part of my performance art I was performing, when I first started, I was, you know, exploring in the kink community. And I did a lot of acts around fetishes. And so I would play out like a scene scenario and play with archetypes, like I did one that was really sexy, and I was a principal and, you know, there was a teacher. And then there was a student and I was punishing, the teacher and the teacher was representing student is very spicy. And it was at this queer burlesque show in Oakland, the white horse, which is like the oldest gay nightclub in the East Bay. And it was really just freeing to explore the things that I thought were really sexy and really exciting. And, you know, that I was curious about and just kind of dropping into those types of roles and acting them out. And that's something that we get to do on stages, we get to come up with stories of our art form, I have a act where I am a vagina, like a full sized vagina. And it's a, you know, a piece about owning your body and owning your femininity, and feminine energy as well as you know, women's rights. And so, through the art form, you can create an act and around it, you know, have a narrative, I have one that I call by body positive, fantastic. And it's about owning your body in, you know, the space it's in right now. And it's really empowering and kind of in your face. And so you get to play with different music and costumes, and kind of, you know, take that five minutes, that opportunity in that act to really get a message across.

Wow, I love that. And so you were talking a little bit about, um, so I'm, I'm a little bit intrigued and maybe even a little bit stuck on this vision of this, of the vagina coming out on stage.

I know I'm gonna do it again, really soon. And I'm excited about it, because I haven't done it in a while. But it is, you know, it's kind of like my homage to being a part of that production for so long. And it really was just it. It gave me deep connection to my own body and my own vulva. And so to be able to express that love of my own body through the art form is really just so fun,

huh? Yeah. And you know, it's funny as you're talking I was thinking about when I the first time I saw the Vagina Monologues and the Khudi snitcher. Oh, yeah, Dory is like, I love that. Anyway. Yeah, I

was the woman who likes to make vaginas happy. And she's the dominatrix that lets out the moans at the end of her monologue. Ah, okay. So it was kind of like, the first time I did it. I was like, you know, I really connect with this character. I really want to explore what these things are. And it was really fun because, you know, as a performer in the role of the director that I worked with, you know, I had to go and do Research and and so go to sex shops and go to good vibrations and like play with toys and, you know, props and get, you know, costumes that work with the character. So it was kind of like the first time I got to explore all the things that, you know, I just love to this day as well as encourage other people to bring into their sex life is, you know, you know, exploring fabrics that might be really exciting to you, or putting on stockings and seeing how they make you feel, or garter belts or corsets and lingerie and, you know, just kind of getting into a character or, you know, coming into your own sensuality. Mm hmm. Yeah.

And, um, so before we came on air, you were talking about something that you were creating the, the moaning workshop.

Yes. So because of this experience of, I think I've performed this monologue, maybe three or four times in my life, different, different times of my life, and thought that it was super empowering to let out sound on stage and to have orgasmic moaning in front of an audience. I definitely am an exhibitionist, you know, it's a big part of why I love my performance art so much is that I really love to, you know, perform, and to be on stage in that way. And it kind of inspired me to bring it into my burlesque, I've done an act where I'm a boot black, and I am shining boots. And I get to this really exciting part in the music where I'm rubbing the polish on the end of my, the toe of my boot, and I just go faster and faster and faster. And then I just let out a huge orgasmic Mon. And it kind of, it takes the audience by surprise, because Burlesque is not usually a vocal art form. It's a physical art form. And there's very rarely sound that happens during it, it's you performing to music usually. And so for me, it was a nice little disrupter moment of like, you know, doing something that doesn't typically happen. And also, just like the excitement of, you know, taking the audience by surprise by letting you know, myself be heard in that way. And I think that that kind of led me to be a little bit more curious about it. And I think that a lot of people have a hard time making sound, I've definitely seen it working with plants. And I am a yogi. And so one of the things that I thought was really fun. Being a yogi was there's breathing exercises, of course, I now do this in my work. And I'm sure like, so many of us do this. But you know, doing breath work where you kind of, you know, inhale, and then you exhale, and you let sound out. And you let moans out new, let you know, whatever breath and energy comes out of your body as you're releasing the air from your lungs. And I just see people in sessions, and it's very challenging for them, it's very hard for them to let go in that way. Mm hmm. You know what I mean? And, like, so much, I'm just like, leaning into it, like, but it's a, I think it's really telling that like, the more that we're able to let go and the more that we're able to let ourselves be seen, let ourselves be heard and to kind of just let the energy come through our body and like come out in whatever way shape and form at once to it's like the better release weekend have.

Right, right? Well, and, and the term or the phrase using your voice is set, you know, it has so many different connotations, and especially now, when we use our voices, not just you know, not just in in private realms, but also in public grounds. And so, it's so fascinating to bring the different, you know, using your voice doesn't necessarily have to mean words. Yeah. And so just and, and, and, and it can be very sexy to actually use words when you are asking for something, you know, when you're in the midst of sensual play, and it's like, well, how do you ask for something a little different than your partner is doing it this time? You know, do you? And and, and it's funny, because as I'm sitting here and thinking to myself, Oh, well, part of part of guiding your partner is using the sounds and the moans to let them know that they're on the right spot. Exactly. You know, and it can be a super turn on to hear your own voice.

And to hear your partner's voice and like, oh, yeah,

you,

if you it's like, it's also wonderful to let yourself be heard, but also to encourage your partner to be heard, like, it's I love to hear, you know, the grunts and the, you know, the, the release that comes the sounds, the, you know, when they're turned on and what comes out, and I think, you know, there's that training of, you know, being in the development stages and not, you know, being in private spaces, and, you know, having to be quiet and having to, you know, train your body to have orgasms without sound. And then you have to retrain your body. And so kind of learning how to do the opposite of what you developmentally have been doing.

Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. It was funny, I was just thinking about, like, you know, I've had those moments where I'm like, God, who is that person? There's so loud

Oh. So, I would imagine that that, you know, the that piece about moaning and using your voices is kind of the the communication part of your three C's, can you talk a little bit about the creativity in the connection part?

Yeah, I think, you know, communication is so important. It's like, kind of hearing what it is that your partner ones, and also being able to tell your partner what you want, I think there's so many misconceptions about around orgasm, and pleasure that a lot of people have been trained to think, by society, by media by so many different things that, you know, someone's just going to show up and, and know what to do and how to, you know, how to give you the best sex of your life. But really, you have to ask for things, and you have to explore different things. And you have to, you know, have that conversation around what you like, and what's working and what you know, you enjoy. And so like, communication is, I feel like the pillar to having the best sex of your life. And then finding ways to kind of go outside of, because if you, if you're going to have sex, you're probably going to have it for the rest of your life. And so can you have the same sex the same style, the same position your whole life and be satisfied, maybe, probably,

but there's so much to

access, there's so much to explore, there's so many different ways to have sex. And so I just, I want to encourage people to bring in the spirit of play, and to bring in the creativity of, you know, you know, just trying different things that might turn you on. And the only way to find out is to do research. And so that's what I try to do with a lot of my clients is give them you know, I hear what things turn them on things that have, you know, got them excited in the past and, and then give them creative solutions of how they can go home and do some really sexy homework around the things that turn them on. And sometimes that has to do with dress up. I am a big fan of dress up especially being you know, performance artist. Mm hmm. And so, you know, for me, just who I am, you know, I'm a high femme queer woman have always been really attracted to the vintage styling and so, you know, looking in my closet right now I have this beautiful satin Pink robe with Marabu for around the edges and like, Oh, it's just like the sexiest robe and I can, you know, put that on my body and I'm immediately responsive. And I can, you know, wear that in front of my partner and it's, you know, very exciting and there's so many fabrics and sensations latex is something that if you haven't slid a lubed up lay trick stress on your body. I mean, it's not for everybody, but for me, it's very exciting. Like, you know, there's so many different materials and, and ways to play dress up in the kinky realm as well as, you know, just costumes, just regular costumes, I gave one of my clients the idea of, you know, doing a scenario with their partner, you know, where they're the pizza delivery person like it really you can go in so many directions, you know, like some people really like kitten play or pet play. And then, you know, going and finding fabrics that feel free and soft, and, you know, collars and ears, and there's just like so many different scenarios and characters that you can bring into the bedroom. It's not, you know, it's not maybe every single night that you do this, but it's just like adding another creative way of expressing your sexuality in fun, playful ways.

Absolutely, absolutely. And I have to say, you know, I've always been a little bit afraid of latex. But for whatever reason, your description is, oh, well, lube dresses Can I mean, it's

you, you know what you don't even know until you put it on your body. Like you have to slide it over your body. And then it just it I don't know what it is. It's so hot and exciting. So I definitely recommend you giving a latex. Fun.

Yeah, no, absolutely. But I just have this image of being a dumb con many years ago, and there was this guy who had this purple latex outfit. And yeah, okay, sorry. I'm back.

And like, you know, like, for people who maybe are like, whoa, latex, what, like, there's also like, you know, very simple things like, stockings, like people have foot fetishes. And so getting a bunch of heels and stockings, and fishnets and garter belts, and like, bringing those into the bedroom, and, you know, it can be so many things, you can try different archetypes and different characters. You know, you can do grooming and, you know, bring in different props. And, yeah, there's so many fun ways that you can kind of be creative in the bedroom. And so I really try to bring that into the workshops that I lead, as well as with my clients, just giving them you know, resources to try new things. Mm hmm. I love

that. So tell me, tell me about connection.

I think that for me, whether you're poly whether you're monogamous whether, you know, you're been married for, you know, 30 years or you're just, you know, dating casually, like I feel like connection is still the way to have really amazing sex like, can you have really hot and steamy one nightstand? Sure, but I feel like the more presence that you can bring into the connection. Whether it's, you know, however that relationship dynamic is, the more that you can be like super present and able to just connect with the person that you're with, you're going to have better sex. I think that I'm a sober woman. And so it's definitely for me, like the the presence really calls to me, I think that you can just have really amazing sex if you can be, you know, 100% there with your partner. And then, you know, that can look a lot of different ways. It's like, tantra is a good example. of, you know, being with someone being in the breath, you know, really being present in your body with another person, too. Would you agree with that?

Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, I've been really, you know, kind of refining my explanation of presence to being, being able to feel in your own body while you are in the presence of another. And the, you know, allowing for that, that connection to happen, which is in this present moment, right, like, we're not, we're not fantasizing about the future. We're not like tripping out on the past, but it's like, in this moment, and for me, touches one of the most, it's one of the things that brings me present faster than anything else, it's like, oh, if I touch my body, this is where I'm at, ah, one of one of my teachers is really big on, you know, this is your body and you live here. And really having that idea of being able to be to be in the body, and to be able to move the body. And such an important experience, you know, allowing to feel allowing yourself to feel that ownership over your own body. And it sounds like from what you were saying earlier, that Burlesque is one of the ways that you really have created your ownership,

or you're definitely I mean, I, I get to, you know, really drop into, like, my sexuality when I'm on stage, and when I'm performing, and I tried to bring the same energy into the bedroom with my partners. And, you know, I think when we show up in that way, you know, when we're encouraging ourselves to be in our body, I think a lot of people do relate with some form of dissociation. And I think like, that's a common thread in, you know, some of the clients that I work with. And so I think that a lot of people get into this auto space where they kind of know how to get themselves off. And they can learn how to be even more present and have deeper connection with themselves. And I think that doing mindful masturbation is one of the ways that people can really have profound ways of connecting with themselves. And I don't think anybody even like, thinks about it, really, but, you know, they maybe want to, you know, have more orgasms, or they want to have more pleasure, or they want to, you know, expand on what they're already doing, you know, with self pleasure. And there's so much more that can, you know, help with being fully in your body. Hmm, and when some some of my clients like, you know, the kinky part of the, the work that I do, you know, with kink stirs. BDSM is not just play for some people, it can be a form of therapy and some impact play has been really healing for people to really drop into having more connections and areas of their body that feel numb, and really help them tap into feeling something in parts of their body or connecting more to different areas of their bodies through, you know, restraint or through, you know, some sort of stimulation, whether it be pain, or it can even be sensual stimulation, whether that's using a feather, you know, dragging across your nipple or a clamp, you know, firmly putting pressure on your nipple. They're both two forms of stimulation that can give the body a response. And so just finding ways through props and kinky toys can really teach people to narrow in their attention on the part of their body, that they want to receive more pleasure in.

Hmm, I love that. So I just want to highlight the idea of bringing attention to one specific place so that you can expand the pleasure in that location. And that's what I heard you say, right? Yes, definitely. Nice. Nice. So we're getting towards the end of our time together and so I'm and I've got so many more questions so I'm so what are you what are you creating now?

Right now I am working on my own year mon workshop that's going to teach people how to release their own orgasmic moans from their body and help them to, you know, let out the things that their body wants to say. I think that that's what's really exciting to me is, you know, this gift that I've been given by my own creative outlets and, and it's really helped me to be very organic orgasmic woman, and I want to share that with others. And so I'm working on that workshop, as well as offering some of my other workshops and working with clients. I am just doing one on one virtual sessions right now, unless you are local to the St. Pete area, and I'll be traveling this spring to Austin as well. Cool.

So now, I'm gonna put you on the spot a little bit here. Since we've been talking about sexuality as part of creativity. How are you using your sexuality to create your workshops?

Hmm. Well, a lot of what I teach is from experience, you know, my own experiences of having my own sexuality be expanded. And so I really kind of have a lot of fun putting those workshops together. Got it, Delia, because it was so exciting. It's you know, every time I have awakenings, like they don't stop, you know, the more than I do research, the more that I, you know, learn about my own sexuality, because it's constantly expanding and changing the more, you know, open I am and the more I continue to learn. And so, I really bring that into my workshops and, and I I also have a group on Facebook called the pussy whisper and it's a space for women who just want a safe space to be heard or to have topics around sexuality. And I definitely want to do more work group work with women.

Mm hmm. Love that said sounds like your creativity, and your, your your sexual exploration feed to creativity. And as you get into the creative mode, there's more, there's more of a loop there.

Oh, definitely. I mean, I, I can't stop being creative. Like I don't, I don't see an end in near at any time in my life. Like I outside of just being a erotic artist and burlesque performer. I'm also a published pinup model. And so when I'm not working on costumes, and acts or working with clients, you know, I might be doing photo shoots and that's something that is extremely erotic for me to be in my costumes to be creating looks and, and creating content around them. And, and so that's something that, you know, it's another great thing that I get to, you know, offer to clients and, and also for people who want to have a deeper connection with their body. I mentioned that I do body positivity and self love practices with some clients and some people just really want to, you know, have a better connection with themselves and so, you know, I am able to offer you know that to my clients.

Love that. And where can people find

you? You can find me I have a website, Shiva clean the night.com and we are working on our website, but Soon I'll have my my profile on body joy.org as well as on social media platforms. You can find me on Facebook at Shiva Kyo Tian and my Instagram handle is sex PASI Sheba that sex palsy p o si

Sheba. Nice. And of course, we will have all of these links in the in the show notes. And so please check them out. And I'm curious last question here, What is one, one small thing someone can do to have better sex.

I think that if you go and do research with your partner, and go to a sex shop that's nearest to your home and find five new things to add, or go into your cupboard and find some items there as well like, Melissa, from body Joy talks about spatulas she uses a spatula, instead of a paddle at times. And, um, you know, coconut oil is such a wonderful, slippery sensation to use for central massages. And you know, you can feed someone strawberries or grapes or cheese and you know, you can get erotic was so many different things. And I think just going into, you know, either to a sex shop and getting some, you know, fun props to play with and bring them in and just just letting some some playfulness into the bedroom. And it doesn't have to be so serious or so. thought out. It just can be fun and exciting and new and adventurous.

Hmm, I love that. So what I'm really hearing is inviting playfulness in and that goes back to your three C's the communication, creativity and connection.

Yes.

Well, thank you so much for this incredible conversation. And I am excited to get to see more of you.

I am excited to see you on a les Trix dress later. nap and just and I want to see a picture, you're gonna have to send it to me, my experience goes.

I'm feeling moved. So I'm just gonna say that between that sometime in 2022 there will be a picture of me and latex. Yeah. out there somewhere. Exploration is the name of the game. And I just want to you know, and I want to add pushing one's edge just a little.

Yes, yes.

No wonder. So such you know, thank you so much. And this is Deborah Kat of the better sex podcast, my incredible guest she bet Queen of the Night. And we have been talking about creativity, communication, connection, and how all of these things lead to better sex. So thank you again for listening to the better sex podcasts. Please, please, please, please, please, Baby Baby, please. And hit the subscribe and the like button so that you can have more of us. And we can have more of you. And on that note, have a wonderful rest of your day. And please come back the next better episode of the better sex podcast.

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Bio: Sheba is a Sex & Intimacy Coach and Erotic Artist located in St. Petersburg, FL. As a practitioner of Body Joy Intimacy School, she works with clients virtually and in person for one-on-one coaching sessions around relationships, sexuality, exploration, and body positivity. 

She leads kink-friendly/queer-friendly workshops encouraging intimacy building and creating a playful, explorative, exciting dynamic in your sex life. Sheba believes the key to a good sex life and fulfilling relationship is relying on the three C's: communication, creativity, and connection.  Follow her social accounts to learn more. 

Website: ShebaQueenoftheNight.com

FB: @ShebaQOTN

IG: @sexposisheba

Also I would love to invite you to be on another show with Melissa D. of Body Joy Intimacy School! I will reach out to you on behalf of her from a different email to coordinate if you are interested. She is in Austin and Northern CA.